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 Post subject: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:36 pm 
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Roger Buddenberg of the Omaha World-Herald says:<p>"Heads are like poetry. Hell, they are poetry." (From a handout the World-Herald uses to train copy editors)<p>***No, they aren't. No, they aren't.***


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:40 pm 
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The editor should always try to consult the writer about significant changes and should try to make changes in the writer's voice and style. <p>That's directly from the handout; shouldn't it be that the editor SHOULDN'T try to make changes in the writer's voice and style? Or am I off completely?


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:23 pm 
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Heds not poetry
***Jumphed contest doesn't count.***
Laughter heard from slot
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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:22 pm 
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Poetry: writing that formulates a concentrated imaginative awareness of experience in language chosen and arranged to create a specific emotional response through meaning, sound, and rhythm.<p>
Not sure I agree with you this time, blanp. Maybe you could take issues with the "emotional" part, but I think that would be a stretch.


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:43 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Nicole Stockdale:
Poetry: writing that formulates a concentrated imaginative awareness of experience in language chosen and arranged to create a specific emotional response through meaning, sound, and rhythm.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I see nothing in that definition that applies to a headline. We should not be trying to create a "specific response," "emotional" or otherwise. We should just try to get across what the story is about.
Wait. Haven't I said that before?<p>[ September 24, 2003: Message edited by: blanp ]</p>


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:11 pm 
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i assure you, there'll be yet another "Headlines as Poetry" workshop at the ACES conference next year.


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:21 pm 
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And here I was wondering why my ACES entry didn't win. <p>"25p6-36-5casb"
Showdown in Iraq,
Bush against Chirac;
U.N. says no;
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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:02 pm 
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I think there's a time and a place for "poetry as headlines." Why not have fun with a story about your "Pork, Peanut and Pine festival" going for the Guiness World Record for biggest peanut butter sculpture?


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:45 pm 
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If a person wants poetry, they should pick up a volume of Keats. Heds should always be function over form, though the two aren't mutually exclusive, and poetry implies a creative expression of an idea that would perhaps be more appropriate in an editorial rather than a concise, one-line summary.


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 Post subject: Re: I think that I shall never see
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:44 pm 
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It seems a better way of looking at headlines is not to say, "Heads are like poetry" but to say, "Heads are like prose," by which I mean ordinary speech or writing; that would help weed out a lot of the shitty "cutesy" crap that often confuses The Reader (and the slot) but always seems to make contest judges happy; or even the jargon laden, headlinese that creeps in to some heads without giving The Reader any room to breath (and you know the kind of crap I mean).


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