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Bumfketeer	Post subject: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:08 pm
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 3557 Location: Cusp of retirement, grave or both	Sorry for picking on poor AOL again, but the following hed is running on their Web site:<p>HOAXER COED IS SENTENCED: Says She's a "Girl to be Proud Of"<p>***That quote had me running to the story to find out why she feels people should be proud of her for doing what she did. This is the actual quote from the story:<p>''I'm taking care of myself now, so someday people will see I'm still a girl to be proud of,'' said Seiler.<p>***In other words, in addition to the sin of saying "said Seiler" instead of "Seiler said," they wrote a totally inaccurate hed.
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juliette14	Post subject: Re: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:06 pm
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:01 am Posts: 73 Location: "It's really not like the rest of Texas."	Coed? Yeesh. 1950 called, it wants its word back.
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Bumfketeer	Post subject: Re: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:20 pm
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 3557 Location: Cusp of retirement, grave or both	That too.
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Oeditpus Rex	Post subject: Re: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:13 pm
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:01 am Posts: 1324 Location: N 36° 57' 9", W 121° 24' 2"	I'm given to believe that AOL doesn't employ "editors" per se -- at least not the kind who write headlines. AOL heds are consistently the worst I've ever seen, and I'm pretty sure they're the product of a word generator. (Whoever wrote the software that came up with "hoaxer" should be flogged at high noon in the digital town square.)<p>I'd like to research this more, but the doors to the newsroom seem to be locked pretty tightly. (I once e-mailed AOL news, after a spate of egregious errors, to ask about employment. Never got a reply.)<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bumfketeer: ***In other words, in addition to the sin of saying "said Seiler" instead of "Seiler said," they wrote a totally inaccurate hed.<hr></blockquote> I've been seeing "said so-and-so" more lately. Is another rule going by the wayside?
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Phillip Blanchard	Post subject: Re: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:06 pm
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 8342 Location: Bethesda, Md.	Walsh took care of that in May. I boil it down to "said comes last, except when it just isn't right."
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majorbabs	Post subject: Re: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:22 pm
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 744 Location: HuskerLand	Just hoping that the people who turn to AOL for their news neither vote or drive. But that's probably too much to ask.
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Bumfketeer	Post subject: Re: That's ALMOST what she said Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:46 pm
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 3557 Location: Cusp of retirement, grave or both	Bravo for Mr. Walsh. I must change that 20 times a night at least in the slot. "Said" comes last, dammit.<p>Last. This ain't no Comp 101 course.
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