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 Post subject: Trevor Hoffman
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:35 pm 
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I've never understood how he racked up all those saves. The Yankees did to him in the '98 World Series (9.00 ERA; 2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO) what the American League did to him tonight.

Maybe his career would have been significantly shorter if he had started out with an AL team and stayed in the AL.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Hoffman
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:52 am 
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When your best pitch is a fairly straight change and the batter guesses that it's coming, your "effectiveness" is reduced. It's worse if your fastball isn't very fast anymore.

As said in a thread a few days ago, American League hitters are more aggressive and more willing to guess than those in the NL. Deception doesn't deter them as much.

Batters have seen Hoffman for a lot of years and apparently are figuring him out. Even if he stays healthy, he'll probably give up more runs than in the past.

Imagine if Mariano Rivera developed a good change-up. He could pitch until he's 50.


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 Post subject: Re: Trevor Hoffman
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:31 am 
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Wayne Countryman wrote:
When your best pitch is a fairly straight change and the batter guesses that it's coming, your "effectiveness" is reduced. It's worse if your fastball isn't very fast anymore.

As said in a thread a few days ago, American League hitters are more aggressive and more willing to guess than those in the NL. Deception doesn't deter them as much.

Batters have seen Hoffman for a lot of years and apparently are figuring him out. Even if he stays healthy, he'll probably give up more runs than in the past.

Imagine if Mariano Rivera developed a good change-up. He could pitch until he's 50.


Good points, Wayne. I would love it if Rivera could pitch till he was 50.

Jonathan Papelbon, at his current level of effectiveness? Not so much.


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