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wordygurdy	Post subject: Probably a silly question Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:12 pm
Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:01 am Posts: 741 Location: The Empire State	A New York *Times* editorial rips Arte Moreno and the Angels for their attempt to change the name of the team to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. But the editorial includes this line: "If [the name change] requires a bit of geographic Dadaism - changing their name but not moving, and adding not one but two bilingual redundancies - then so be it." I get at least one bilingual redundancy--"Los Angeles" and "Angels." What's the other one the *Times* is referring to?
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Wayne Countryman	Post subject: Re: Probably a silly question Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:52 pm
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 1775 Location: Baltimore	wordygurdy wrote: I get at least one bilingual redundancy--"Los Angeles" and "Angels." What's the other one the *Times* is referring to? "The" and "Los"?
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ADKbrown	Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:59 pm
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 1286 Location: Saranac Lake, N.Y.	That would be it. Is anybody bothered by either of them? They don't seem jarring to my anglo ears, but I wonder if "the Los Angeles Angels" sounds ridiculous to someone whose native tongue is Spanish.
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wordygurdy	Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:18 pm
Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:01 am Posts: 741 Location: The Empire State	Ah, thanks, Wayne. Of course--I should have seen it.
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Wayne Countryman	Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:58 am
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 1775 Location: Baltimore	Across the street from the Palm Beach Post in West PB, Fla., is a vile bar known as The El Cid. Twenty years ago it was frequented at night only by bikers, postal workers and copy editors. On the same block were The El Cid dental office, The El Cid barbershop and The El Cid beauty salon. I never heard a biker or mail carrier complain about the redundancy.
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Oeditpus Rex	Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:06 am
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:01 am Posts: 1324 Location: N 36° 57' 9", W 121° 24' 2"	In college, I wrote some ad copy for a sandwich shop frequented by the newspaper staff. Part of it read, "A french dip sandwich with au jus — great when under deadline pressure, or anytime." The paper's adviser, who apparently knew a little French, enlightened me as to my faux pas.
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ndugan1	Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:54 pm
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:01 am Posts: 968 Location: Champaign, Ill.	Oeditpus Rex wrote: In college, I wrote some ad copy for a sandwich shop frequented by the newspaper staff. Part of it read, "A french dip sandwich with au jus — great when under deadline pressure, or anytime." The paper's adviser, who apparently knew a little French, enlightened me as to my faux pas. Apparently, Arby's hasn't gotten that memo, as they still sell their "Giant Roast Beef" with "au jus sauce." The announcer's full quote, I think, was "Get a giant roast beef with au jus sauce for only $3.49!"
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