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 Post subject: Office layout
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 8:23 am 
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We've moved. In the new set-up, the back bench looks like a back bench. [Others please translate if this is not a US term].<p>I'm not surprised by how much easier this makes things.<p>Disclosure: Reporters are fine folk. Production editors worry about trucks.


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 9:04 am 
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Reporters are not always fine folk. One of my pages was late tonight because a reporter decided to give some new captions directly to a graphic designer instead of filtering them through the sub-editors desk. Naturally, style was completely ignored and the designer also managed to get in quite a few typos so we had to have it all done again - after deadline.


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 11:06 am 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Paul Wiggins:
We've moved. In the new set-up, the back bench looks like a back bench. [Others please translate if this is not a US term].<p>I'm not surprised by how much easier this makes things.<p>Disclosure: Reporters are fine folk. Production editors worry about trucks.<hr></blockquote><p>Do Aussies also mark Memorial Day, and if so, is it fair that they get an 18-hour head start on the 12-pack of Fosters?


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:22 pm 
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No. We have a similar holiday, Anzac Day, on April 25. Of course, newspaper lackeys only get to "observe" it from a distance. At most dailies, we only get to take two public holidays each year, Christmas Day and Good Friday, but we don't necessarily get those actual days off. The good news is we get extra annual leave to make up for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:59 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Lee:
The good news is we get extra annual leave to make up for it.<hr></blockquote>
Six weeks and three days in the case of our guild contract (or union negotiated enterprise bargaining agreement read in conjunction with a company award registered in federal jurisdiction, to use the Australian palance)


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 8:03 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Lee:
One of my pages was late tonight because a reporter decided to give some new captions directly to a graphic designer instead of filtering them through the sub-editors desk. .<hr></blockquote>
One would hope there is no repeat performance of that fiasco. A learning opportunity for all on staff, as they say in the classics and a good example of why people need to defer to the back bench. It's not about power, it's about sanity.


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:08 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Paul Wiggins:
A learning opportunity for all on staff, as they say in the classics and a good example of why people need to defer to the back bench.<hr></blockquote><p>Okay, I'll bite. What exactly is a back bench?


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:23 pm 
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The senior-graded copy editors the buck for evrything stops with. <p>In this case (St George Leader, that is) in the back of the room next to the editor alongside chief photographer. Section editors next closest to editor's office, then reporters with chief of staff half way down the reporters benches.<p>[ June 02, 2004: Message edited by: Paul Wiggins ]</p>


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:39 am 
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So, in other words, you have all the slots sitting together, instead of next to the rimmers they supervise? Doesn't that hamstring communication between rim and slot?


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 Post subject: Re: Office layout
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:16 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dapper Dan:
So, in other words, you have all the slots sitting together, instead of next to the rimmers they supervise? Doesn't that hamstring communication between rim and slot?<hr></blockquote>
Just the two subs, cross-checking each other. [the difficult immediately, the impossible takes slightly longer)].The separation that makes the difference is from the reporters.


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