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 Post subject: American Mythology
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 4:07 pm 
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(From an AP story about a 1791 document making what is perhaps the earliest known reference to baseball):<p>"The long-accepted story of baseball's origins centers around Cooperstown, N.Y., where Doubleday is said to have come up with the rules for the modern game."<p>***All right, let's get this straight. That story is not "long-accepted." More historians believe in Santa Claus than believe Abner Doubleday invented the rules of baseball. The Doubleday legend was promulgated in 1901 by the major leagues as a promotional gimmick.***


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:27 am 
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As we all know, the first baseball game on record was played in Beachville, Ontario in 1838 although the Brits would argue it was just a rip-off of Rounders.<p>
http://www.beachvilledistrictmuseum.ca/baseball.shtml


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:10 am 
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M Canuck, you have not been paying attention to cricket posts.


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:18 am 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by canuck:
As we all know, the first baseball game on record was played in Beachville, Ontario in 1838 although the Brits would argue it was just a rip-off of Rounders. <hr></blockquote> Or perhaps of the "base ball" game mentioned in Austen's Northanger Abbey in the mid 1790s. (Rounders was called "base ball" in southern England.)<p>D.


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 12:47 pm 
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According to this theory, a sort of Adam and Eve theory, baseball sprang almost full-grown from the fertile brain of Doubleday the young man on a day in 1839 in a cow pasture in or near the present site of Cooperstown, New York. For many years the legend persisted, until further research indicated that, among other things, at the time Doubleday was supposed to have been in the cow pasture laying out the diamond he was in fact attending classes at West Point, which he entered as a cadet in 1938.
__________<p>But the real Spalding-breaker was
A Pretty Little Pocket-Book, published in England in 1744, which left no doubt that even in that early day, and in a foreign land at that, B stood for Baseball. Illustrated with crude woodcuts, according to historian William E. Brandt, 'It pictures and describes in doggerel quatrains 26 children's sports -- one for each letter of the alphabet. And 'B' is represented by 'Baseball.'"<p>The text notes that the batter hits the ball and runs the bases. The illustration shows pitcher, catcher, batter, and basemen. The bases are marked by posts.

~ from "Baseball, An Informal History," by Douglass Wallop


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 12:09 pm 
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Never mind that! What bugs me about the story is "centers around." Argh!


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:43 am 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slummingreporter:
"Centers around"--that too much of a hedge, GI?<hr></blockquote>Not a question of hedging. You center *on* something, not around it.


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 Post subject: Re: American Mythology
PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:33 am 
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"Center on" and "revolve around."


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