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 Post subject: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 2:41 am 
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The final paragraphs clear up a minor misconception: <p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr> The biblical account in the Book of Genesis says that after the great deluge, the ark came to rest on the mountain with Noah's family and a cargo of male and female pairs of every kind of animal.<p>Geologists say even though there is evidence of a flood in Mesopotamia in Sumerian times, it is not possible for a ship to make landfall at an altitude as high as Mount Ararat. <hr></blockquote><p>Story found on CNN's space and science page.


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 1:39 pm 
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If anyone insists on running this as a science story, please have a local reporter investigate how Noah made sure he got two of every kind of insect on board, and if he didn't, how they came to exist without evolution.<p>If your paper has a "Faith" section, this should run there or nowhere.<p>[ May 02, 2004: Message edited by: Matthew Grieco ]</p>


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:24 am 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr> The goal: to enter what they believe to be a mammoth structure some 45 feet high, 75 feet wide and up to 450 feet long that was exposed in part by last summer's heat wave in Europe. <hr></blockquote><p>The reporter (probably just regurgitating the press release) is a co-conspirator in this lie, giving us the impression that a specific structure was in fact "exposed in part" by last summer's heat wave.
This story shouldn't even appear in the religion section. The real story here is fraud. How much money will be spent on this "expedition"? Who are the dupes investing in "Shamrock -- The Trinity Corporation"? (How interesting is it that the name conjoins symbols of superstition and faith?) How many people are desperate to believe in such a hoax?<p>Ever hear of the Cardiff Giant? <p>Trinity -- The Shamrock Corporation will find something -- the remains of some human encampment, perhaps -- it doesn't matter. Nor will it matter that the find will be conclusively refuted. Some people will always seek physical evidence of their faith, no matter the offense to reason. And a P.T. Barnum will always arise to fill that market gap.<p>[ May 04, 2004: Message edited by: JPSheehan ]</p>


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:57 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by JPSheehan:
The real story here is fraud. How much money will be spent on this "expedition"? <hr></blockquote>Didn't we go through a similar frenzy back in 1997? As I remember, there were photos dating back to the 1940s of an "anomaly" that the enthusiastic immediately tagged as the remains of Noah's Ark.<p>Back in the 1970s, my father (a Biblical archaeologist) was approached by a group of investors who wanted to fund an expedition to find the Ark. They wanted a guarantee that it would be found - nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Somewhat horrified by the proposed bastardisation of his science, my father declined. (He might be slightly dotty, and have a peculiar fondness for riding camels, but he doesn't do antiquities fraud.)<p>It apparently troubles few laymen that the text in Genesis 8:4 reads "mountains of Ararat", not "Mount Ararat". <p>D.<p>[ May 04, 2004: Message edited by: DominEditrix ]</p>


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 6:51 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Matthew Grieco:
please have a local reporter investigate how Noah made sure he got two of every kind of insect on board<hr></blockquote>"Two mosquitos... 'male or female???'"
~ Bill Cosby, "Noah"


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:22 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Oeditpus Rex:
"Two mosquitos... 'male or female???'"
~ Bill Cosby, "Noah"
<hr></blockquote>Oh, my. I saw him perform that live once. To this day no one has ever topped it or come even close. Thanks for the memory!


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:15 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Oeditpus Rex:
"Two mosquitos... 'male or female???'"
~ Bill Cosby, "Noah"
<hr></blockquote><p>African or European?


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:23 pm 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Drew4AU:
African or European?<hr></blockquote>Of course, African mosquitos are non-migratory.<p>(Well-played, Drew.)


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 Post subject: Re: Expedition to unearth Noah's Ark
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:10 am 
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by DominEditrix:
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Back in the 1970s, my father (a Biblical archaeologist) ... He might be slightly dotty, and have a peculiar fondness for riding camels, but he doesn't do antiquities fraud.)
<hr></blockquote><p>Wow, your dad sounds interesting. Anyone ever do a story on him?


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