Testy Copy Editors

Our new website is up and running at testycopyeditors.org. This board will be maintained as an archive. Please visit the new site and register. Direct questions to the proprietor, blanp@testycopyeditors.org
It is currently Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:58 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 25 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:34 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 3137
Location: Homebush NSW Australia
India has beaten Australia in a five-day Test match. As a consequence, I am just about to put together a baseball pictorial page, rather than a cricket page.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:58 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 1112
Location: An undisclosed alpine meadow
Paul, <p>Even when I don't fully understand your posts, I find them fascinating.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:44 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:01 am
Posts: 145
Location: Toronto
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SeaRaven:
Paul, <p>Even when I don't fully understand your posts, I find them fascinating.<hr></blockquote><p>My commowealth companion is talking about cricket, a game difficult to understand but easy to appreciate by sporting a wide-brimmed hat, guzzling gin-and-tonic and chowing down on strawberries.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:14 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 1324
Location: N 36° 57' 9", W 121° 24' 2"
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Paul Wiggins:
India has beaten Australia in a five-day Test match. As a consequence, I am just about to put together a baseball pictorial page, rather than a cricket page.<hr></blockquote>
I must've missed something. (Irony, perhaps?) How is one a consequence of the other?<p>Aside, I'd gladly give baseball appreciation lessons for tutelage in the basics of cricket.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 741
Location: The Empire State
I saw the Indian movie *Lagaan* last year in the theater. It's about five hours long (it even has an intermission, which I had never experienced while seeing a movie). It's now on video if anyone cares to rent it.<p>Most of the plot revolves around the outcome of a cricket match, and a good portion of the movie follows the match, play by play.<p>At the end of five hours I was no closer to understanding cricket than I was at the beginning--and I am a die-hard baseball fan.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:26 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:01 am
Posts: 3557
Location: Cusp of retirement, grave or both
My wife and I own a home in British Columbia, to which I hope to retire in five years.<p>I am having a difficult time figuring Canada out, Paul, though I am trying. I sat in a few bars out there during the Winter Olympics and pretended to understanding curling. The fact that Kelly Law is kinda cute did make it sort of bearable. That and the beer.<p>Paul, I think Australia will be more of a challenge for me to understand. I agree with a prior poster in that I sometimes am kerfuffled by your missives, but thoroughly enjoy them nonetheless.<p>The only thing I know about cricket is that one of the stars is\was Nick Trainor, which happens to be my stepfather's and half-brother's name.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:14 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:01 am
Posts: 8342
Location: Bethesda, Md.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bumfketeer:
The only thing I know about cricket is that one of the stars is\was Nick Trainor, which happens to be my stepfather's and half-brother's name.<hr></blockquote><p>Eerie.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 3137
Location: Homebush NSW Australia
The post was a confession that victories get more coverage than losses, which I am not sure is a good or a bad thing.<p>* What's difficult to understand about a game that can go for five days and that more often in not ends in a draw?<p>You have two sides, one in the field and one in.
Each man that is in the side that is in goes out and when he is out he comes in and the next man goes out.
When they are all out, the side that has been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out.
Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When both sides have been in and out, including the not outs, that is the end of the game.<p>
HOWZAT! <p>(Acknowledgements to the MCC)


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 1112
Location: An undisclosed alpine meadow
Thanks, Paul. The explanation was well worth the wait, as expected.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 741
Location: The Empire State
I'm with Sea Raven on that one!<p>Does that explanation come with a secret decoder ring?!


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 3137
Location: Homebush NSW Australia
I've been watching cricket for many decades and still learn something new each time. It's a fine metaphor for life.
A colleague of mine from Arizona once went to Lord's in England (the spiritual home of cricket) and went to the Long Room (the inner sanctum, as it were) to watch England play Australia.
"Wiggins,'' says Berryman, ''the members were reading about the match in the newspaper, rather than watching it.''
''Berryman,'' says Wiggins, ''that's the point.''


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:55 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 1112
Location: An undisclosed alpine meadow
Until this moment, I never had much desire to watch a cricket match. Now it's on the must-do-before-I-die list.<p>[ December 17, 2003: Message edited by: SeaRaven ]</p>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:27 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 1324
Location: N 36° 57' 9", W 121° 24' 2"
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Paul Wiggins:
You have two sides, one in the field and one in.
Each man that is in the side that is in goes out and when he is out he comes in and the next man goes out.
When they are all out, the side that has been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out.
Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When both sides have been in and out, including the not outs, that is the end of the game.
<hr></blockquote>
John Cleese couldn't have explained it better. Bravo!<p>(I'll be laughing about that one for days.)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 131
Location: South of Detroit
A comedian (Mike Macdonald, I think) once said that televised cricket is the only thing that would get a heroin addict off the couch to change the channel.<p>He got a big laugh for it -- I guess that's the general view -- but I watched part of a match at Eton about 20 years ago whilst messing around in the UK for a bit. I found it strangely, langorously, elegant. Seemed a perfect sport for the kind of (for England) sultry day on which it was played.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 3137
Location: Homebush NSW Australia
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by RimRat:
I found it strangely, langorously, elegant. .<hr></blockquote><p>By George, I think he's got it!
The qualities you describe are those I have seen in the best copy editors it has been my privilege to work with.
I, on the other hand, am strangely, hyperactively, inelegant.
Such is life.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 131
Location: South of Detroit
I, on the other hand, am strangely, hyperactively, inelegant.<p>My langour, on the other hand, is often mistaken for sleep.<p>Your recital of the salient points of cricket has helped me understand, in retrospect, whatinhell I was watching. Once I stopped chortling, that is.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2002 12:01 am
Posts: 744
Location: HuskerLand
Help me out here, Wiggins. My English friend says that cricket is a sport played by gentlemen for ruffians and rugby is a sport played by ruffians for gentlemen. Is he right?


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:05 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 3137
Location: Homebush NSW Australia
Almost correct but as I recall it ... Rugby: a game for thugs played by gentlemen; football (soccer): a game for gentlemen played by thugs .


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:28 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2002 12:01 am
Posts: 476
Location: Twin Cities
You want to read another language that only look like English? Take a look at cricket stories. Bloomberg often moves some, if your paper subscribes to that wire.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 1112
Location: An undisclosed alpine meadow
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Paul Wiggins:
football (soccer): a game for gentlemen played by thugs .<hr></blockquote><p>Perhaps the American TV news media have been giving a skewed perspective (as usual), but the only times I ever see soccer fans are when they are ripping out one another's vital organs and burning down the stadium.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:52 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 3
Location: Calgary, Alta., Canada
<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bumfketeer:
My wife and I own a home in British Columbia, to which I hope to retire in five years.<p>I am having a difficult time figuring Canada out, Paul, though I am trying. I sat in a few bars out there during the Winter Olympics and pretended to understanding curling. The fact that Kelly Law is kinda cute did make it sort of bearable. That and the beer.
.
<hr></blockquote><p>The secret to curling is in our beer.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:47 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2002 12:01 am
Posts: 836
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
You can probably survive nicely in BC without a complete command of curling. However, in Saskatchewan it is mandatory.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am
Posts: 3137
Location: Homebush NSW Australia
A postscript.
After 20 playing days aforementioned Test series is over - tied at one game for India and one game for Australia with two draws - its fate in the balance until the final few minutes of scheduled play. For a lack of media diversity (and crocodiles) enlarge thumbnails at The Daily Terror and The esteemed Illawarra Mercury.<p>[ January 06, 2004: Message edited by: Paul Wiggins ]</p>


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:01 am
Posts: 399
Location: Saratoga Springs, N.Y.
The only thing I find as incomprehensible as Cricket coverage is Bridge reports (helpfully reproduced in this forum from time to time). It always make me think of a hilarious scene in Tom Stoppard's "The Real Inspector Hound":<p> Cynthia: Right! Who starts?
Magnus: I do. I'll dummy for a no-bid ruff and double my holding on South's queen.
Felicity: Pay twenty-ones or trump my contract. Cynthia's turn.
Cynthia: I'll trump your contract with five dummy no-trumps there and I'll move West's rook for the re-bid with a banker ruff on his second trick there. Simon?
Birdboot: Would you mind doing that again?
Cynthia: And I'll ruff your dummy with five no-bid trumps there, and I support your re-bid with a banker for the solo ruff in the dummy trick there.
Birdboot: And I call your bluff!
Cynthia: Well done, Simon!
Cynthia: Right Simon, it's your opening on the minor bid. Hmm. Let's see. I think I'll overbid the spade convention with two no-trumps and King's gambit offered there--and West's dummy split double to Queen's
Bishop 4 there!
Magnus: Faites vos jeux. Rien ne va plus. Rouge et noir. Zéro.
Cynthia: Simon?
Birdboot: And I call your bluff!
Cynthia: I meld.
Felicity: I huff.
Magnus: I ruff.
Birdboot: I bluff.
Cynthia: Twist.
Felicity: Bust.
Magnus: Check.
Birdboot: Snap.
Cynthia: How's that?
Felicity: Not out.
Magnus: Double top.
Birdboot: Bingo!<p>--Rambler Dan
(5 below zero at noon, thank you very much)


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Never be a sports sulk.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:01 am
Posts: 1324
Location: N 36° 57' 9", W 121° 24' 2"
Good lord, that is hilarious! <p>This Stoppard chap -- he was the Seventh Python perchance?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 25 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

What They're Saying




Useful Links