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paulwiggins
 Post subject: Re: make it stop!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:08 pm 
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Ah, cliches -- where would we be without them? There is nothing new in the Sun, my UK colleagues tell me.
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nstockdale
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="TImes, TimesNR, serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by JL Creighton:
how much longer can education stories continue to have these heds about "making the grade"?!!<hr></blockquote><p>As long as young copy editors keep thinking their idea is the first.
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As well they should.
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pzicari
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Copy editors nationwide just got over the argument over puns and here it comes again. <p>I think the best way to decide whether to indulge is to run the idea through a list of don'ts. Don't try: schools
computers
most electricial devices, including telephones
banks ... <p>unless you have something you're completely sure is original, and<p>don't even think about it in cases of health, death, and religion, and don't do proper names unless you write for sports and the idea is overwhelming.<p>Remember that a "perfect" pun, equally meaningful in either reading, is what you ought to be trying for, and that sometimes descriptive, or even indignant language, will work out better than wordplay.<p>When it doubt, just tell 'em as clearly and completely as possible what the story is about, and move on. There's always another comma to delete.
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