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longwords	Post subject: Two-in-one Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:52 am
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 8:31 pm Posts: 552 Location: Pennsylvania	I don't think this job (from journaismjobs.com) is necessarily a nightmare, but if they want a good designer and an equally talented copy editor for one position, maybe they should advertise it as a "job sharing" position: Quote: The Kentucky New Ea, one of the best-looking papers in our region, is seeking a copy editor who can spot holes in stories and a designer who can make every page of the paper lively, and one person will fill both needs. We're a 12,000-ciruclation paper an hour north of Nashville. Ours is a learning newsroom with regularly-scheduled workshops and retreats. Because we're a PM, we offer great hours and a congenial and learning atmosphere. The ability to think spatially and visually in a creative way and the ability to analyze language rigorously aren't combined in one person as often as newspaper publishers imagine.
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Wabberjocky	Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:29 pm
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:47 pm Posts: 1734 Location: Washington	I agree. But that's never going to change, and there isn't a publisher or editor on earth who could be shamed now into separating the jobs — all they see are short-term cost savings (the kind that protect their year-end bonuses). Even some metros combine those jobs now.
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paulwiggins	Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:24 am
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 am Posts: 3137 Location: Homebush NSW Australia	Wabberjocky wrote: I agree. But that's never going to change, and there isn't a publisher or editor on earth who could be shamed now into separating the jobs — all they see are short-term cost savings (the kind that protect their year-end bonuses). Even some metros combine those jobs now. On the face of it, this seems an excellent opportunity for career advancement for a wordsmith who wants to advance their design skills. Many are willing and able.
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Heartodixie	Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:16 am
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:15 am Posts: 1432 Location: Alabamer	Ouch. Spelling one's own name wrong in an ad for copy editors has to hurt recruitment.
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egable	Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:27 am
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:24 am Posts: 310	Wabberjocky wrote: I agree. But that's never going to change, and there isn't a publisher or editor on earth who could be shamed now into separating the jobs — all they see are short-term cost savings (the kind that protect their year-end bonuses). Even some metros combine those jobs now. We're a 16,000-circ. daily and we separate the positions (with a fairly small amount of crossover). Seems to me that it doesn't cost any more to hire a copy editor and a designer than it does to hire two copy editor/designers.
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