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Phillip Blanchard	Post subject: New World Order Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:48 am
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 8342 Location: Bethesda, Md.	The Southeast Missourian is looking for a full-time copy editor. The job includes editing copy, laying out pages and helping post stories to the web. Candidate must have a strong grasp of grammar and AP style. Experience with InDesign is preferred. The copy editor will work the evening shift and earn $12.40 an hour plus benefits. Please send a cover letter explaining your approach to editing along with a resume to news editor Spencer Cramer at scramer@semissourian.com. (JournalismJobs) *** The Southeast Missourian will probably get hundreds of applications from people who can only hope that "benefits" include food. ***
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KfitzR	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:43 am
Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 836 Location: New Brunswick, Canada	I like the quasi-reptilian sound of semi-ssaurian.
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sacerra	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:05 pm
Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:18 pm Posts: 3	The "benefits" are: You have a job. Be grateful, dammit!
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Editer	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:32 pm
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:33 pm Posts: 1225 Location: Texas	One notes that having a "friend with benefits" means you get screwed on a regular basis. I expect this is somewhat analogous.
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Powderhorn	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:46 am
Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 840 Location: Ashland, Ore.	$12.40 would have been exciting to me in 2003 ... sadly, I make marginally more than that after a $40K stint. Frankly, having worked for 7-Eleven this summer at minimum wage, it's not awful.
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Heartodixie	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:51 pm
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:15 am Posts: 1432 Location: Alabamer	I guess this is a rhetorical question, but don't small papers realize how off-the-charts low their wages are? I started an $11-an-hour reporting job (after years of making an OK salary writing and editing for trade pubs) in freaking California not all that long ago. My last employer, in Nowhere, Alabama, acted like it was doing me a favor by putting me on a $38K salary the year after I made a lifetime high of $41K (with overtime) as an hourly copy editor. Most recently, I've been bumping around the manual labor sector, getting $7 - $12 an hour for unskilled mostly construction temp work and $11 - $18 an hour for "permanent" unskilled factory work. If the yahoos in the newspaper biz expect recruits to come with a college degree and internship experience, they really have to start paying a professional wage. Lots of Mexican drywall-hangers and American chicken-slashers are making well above $12.40 an hour. (Pointlessly stating the obvious, as always.)
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copynomad	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:07 pm
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:07 am Posts: 623	They pay crap because people keep filling jobs. There's an infinite supply of people willing to work cheap with hope of advancement. Many will leave in disgust, but there's more where they came from.
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KfitzR	Post subject: Re: New World Order Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:29 pm
Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 836 Location: New Brunswick, Canada	Sadly, this is so.
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